you have rebecca brooks saying it's inconceivable she knew of any of this hacking. how can you hack 4,000 people, end up with hundreds of stories, many of them full of really, you know, delicious personal stuff that you would only learn from phone calls, and not as an editor ask where it had come from. go ahead. >> david, i was just wondering, the question we have on our minds, is this really a watergate moment for british journalism? the smear campaign against gordon brown, do you think it was politically motivated, that the paper actually had something, some skin in the game here to trash a politician, that one in particular, the prime minister? >> reporter: well, if you remember watergate, the dynamics were different. it was government trying to rub out its enemies. in this instance, you have media powers looking either for circulation or for operational leverage, going after politicians and telling them how it's going to be. it's a little scary, i guess, for the average american to think about things that way but again, you have to remember, britain is a much sm